It is reported that the Gripen of the Royal Thai Air Force defeated the Su-27 or J-11 in 4:0 victory
According to China Times
Thai Air Force war was defeat Communist forces under review
At 22:56 on May 3, 2016 Jiang Feiyu
Discussion of recent military zone continental spread a less glorious past, the CPC and the end of 2015. Thailand joint military exercises in simulated air combat project, the CCP main fighter Su-27 and J-11 were Thai Air Force JAS-39 “Griffin “4: 0 result of defeat by the Continental Army fans talk.
This air combat simulation called “Eagle -2015” exercise, the CPC operating J-11 pilots, the latest against the Thai Air Force JAS-39C / D type, although at the end of the exercise, the two sides executives publicly say that “the outcome of each.” but the British magazine “Air Force Monthly” the latest was disclosed some details of the exercise, the Thai reporter author wrote to his personal experience as well as communication with the Thai Air Force pilot, insider account of the exercise, including the Chinese Communist Party sent best pilot participation, but also a test of Thailand JAS-39C / D, but the most shocking still air combat simulation results: in some subjects, the “Griffin” with a 4: 0 victory over the J-11.
Many military commentators noted that the performance difference between both fighters, to explain the final result, mostly classified as three reasons:
1. This is a 1-on-1 combat singled out, the comparison is purely aircraft performance, so the problem is not the quality of the pilot, but the aircraft performance issues.
2. Thailand operate Western-style electronic digital fighter for a long time, including the F-16 and JAS-39C / D is the most innovative avionics, can be called “fourth generation semi-fighter.”
3. The CCP dispatched J-11 avionics early configuration, although there is also shot from outside the missile, but compared with the JAS-39C / D, operating procedures excessive.
Some commentators also believe that, JAS-39C / D small and flexible, this type of heavy long-range J-11 fighter is not unexpected defeat. However, most of the military fans unhappy with this result, even if they think that these J-11 is not the most advanced, but still belong to the first line of the Guangzhou Military Region fighters, even if have to beat Thailand, how on Japan, South Korea, the United States? and Su-27 Flanker fighter series has always been to be able to show “stall maneuver” world-famous, it is difficult to accept that it is not flexible enough.
However, some comments are encouraged from the perspective that abroad against its meaning is quite important, purpose of the exercise is to understand their own lack of know opponents strengths, this is the most important. The test of the West’s most superb JAS-39C / D type Griffin, can thus learn better operating system configuration for the Chinese mainland next generation of aircraft development is very informative, and harvest more valuable.
(China Times)
Translated by Google chinatimes.com
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It seems this is not an isolated incident at Red Flag 2013 Saab Gripen flying as Red Force had the highest F-22 kills!
The highest scores of kills at Red Flag 2013 NATO exercise: Link
So F-16, F-18, F-15, Su-27, Su-30s beware of the little nibble Gripen!
挑戰新聞軍事精華版–「殲11」戰機遭泰國0:4完敗,中共空軍戰力被檢討?
Military News Challenge the best version – “F-11” fighters were Thailand 0: 4 defeat, the CCP is to review the Air Force combat capability?
You’re very welcome my dear Thai friend. The British airforce monthly magazine said that Gripen won 4:0 in one subject, I think it’s more likely it’s BVR because of J-11a’s very outdated radar, while according to the British magazine, Thai AF was impressed with the ability of Chinese pilots, and consider that J-11/Su-27 has good maneuverability too, I guess it might be closer in WVR, just my opinion.
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Good post but an excellent site like this needs a neutral view….i am No China supporter btw.
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Thanks that’s why I included links from Chinese news source
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The news and the video are Chinese but Taiwanese, they are using traditional Chinese characters. In the video the experts said the J-11a defeated in BVR is China’s oldest 4th generation fighter.
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Thanks for your comment
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I had a look at the interview from the Thai AF it is contradictory to what the Chinese news article says the Thai AF said that the exercise was even and that the Chinese J-11 had BVR advantage but the Gripen were very difficult for the Chinese to detect so that would indicate they got with WVR engagement see link but it is in Thai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsiTaaHC_7U
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